IRC/Gathering-2012-11-11

This is a transcript of the IRC gathering on November 11, 2012.

Present: Skud, thejaymo, rodi.

thejaymo joined the chat room. [11:10pm] Skud: thejaymo: hey! [11:10pm] Tansy: 1 [11:10pm] thejaymo: Hiya ! On irc on a train [11:10pm] thejaymo: truly is the 21st century! [11:11pm] Skud: heh, awesome [11:11pm] thejaymo: I'll be lurking mainly [11:11pm] Skud: first time i had internet on a plane it was magic [11:11pm] Skud: it's quiet so far, just you and me and a bunch of people who are asleep or having lives [11:12pm] thejaymo: I'm on my way to post apocalyptic book club [11:12pm] thejaymo: might loose signal [11:13pm] Skud: that sounds like an awesome book club [11:13pm] Skud: do you read post-apocalyptic SF, or is it all survival manuals and stuff? [11:14pm] Skud: (i would join either book club, to be honest) [11:17pm] thejaymo left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [11:32pm] thejaymo joined the chat room. [11:34pm] thejaymo: What are teh plans about maybe connecting to that semantic wiki [11:34pm] thejaymo: ? [11:34pm] thejaymo: now we have a crop db [11:34pm] Skud: no plans as yet. it's not quite on the roadmap at this point. [11:35pm] Skud: their license isn't compatible yet. i wouldn't want to make concrete plans til we actually *can* do it. [11:35pm] thejaymo: Yh. Tricky to figure out exactly what info we need to call etc [11:35pm] Skud: and it's not just a matter of that guy changign it -- he has to get buy in from *his* upstream [11:35pm] thejaymo: yes agreed [11:36pm] Skud: i think the first data import we'll be looking at is international names (via freebase and/or wikipedia) which will give us some idea of what complexity is involved [11:36pm] thejaymo: cool have been wondering [11:36pm] thejaymo: yeah. I think it would be better to figure out the best way of Doing that [11:37pm] thejaymo: Personally wouldn't want to do a sql script [11:37pm] Skud: yeah. i worked at freebase 2007-2011 and trust me, data imports are NOT EASY especially for changeable data [11:37pm] Skud: just to give an idea… let's say we import from practicalplants.org and then someone on our site realises there's a mistake and edits (on growstuff) [11:37pm] Skud: then we run another import/update a month later. whose data do we now trust… our own, or practicalplants? [11:38pm] Skud: what if practicalplants has updated as well, to yet another value? [11:38pm] Skud: freebase has a team of about 20 engineers working on this full time. admittedly for larger subject matter and more sources, but still. [11:39pm] Skud: there were definitely multiple engineer-years of work into just getting the first version of their wikipedia import running. and that was pretty simplistic. [11:40pm] Skud: so, it's a very expensive/complicated path to go down. and the licenses aren't compatible anyway. in short: i'm not thinking about it just yet! [11:47pm] thejaymo left the chat room. (Quit: Bye) [11:48pm] thejaymo joined the chat room. [11:48pm] thejaymo: Haha fo sure. [11:48pm] thejaymo: right I'm at the bookclub. Glad I showed my face. Speak soon! [11:48pm] thejaymo left the chat room. (Client Quit) [11:55pm] Skud: annalee dukeleto elf-pavlik JennyST koivula maco randomling|zzz scrdcow shadowspar: anyone round? about to call it a night unless anyone else pops in in the next 5. [11:56pm] rodi joined the chat room. [11:58pm] Skud: rodi: heya [11:58pm] rodi: Hi Skud [11:58pm] rodi: Saw your tweet, interested in what you're doing. [11:58pm] Skud: awesome :) [11:58pm] rodi: Met you at the Library of Congress a long time ago, [11:59pm] rodi: I sit next to inkdroid, who I guess you kind of know. [11:59pm] Skud: it's been a sparsely attended gathering, and thejaymo just left so it's you and me for now [11:59pm] Skud: oh cool :) good to hear from you again [11:59pm] Skud: i was just thinking fondly of the guided tour of LoC that i got that day [11:59pm] rodi: Yeah, I have a farm :) [11:59pm] Skud: telling someone about it the other day [11:59pm] Skud: oh cool [11:59pm] Skud: well what can i tell you about growstuff? [11:59pm] rodi: I also have four kids, who are clamoring for attention, so I'll be sparsely attending here, too. [11:59pm] Skud: no worries [12:00am] Skud: it's heading up on midnight here so i'll probably call it a night soon [12:00am] rodi: HAHAHAHA, nice. Where are you? [12:00am] Skud: melbourne, australia. after i quit working at google i moved back home. [12:01am] rodi: Nice.  Nice on both counts. [12:01am] rodi: Read your blog entry after it showed up on hackernews, [12:01am] Skud: heh yeah, got a lot of visitors from that /o\ [12:01am] rodi: all sounded very much in keeping with stuff that I've been thinking about :) [12:02am] rodi: We are, as I mentioned, growing stuff, and I, as you know, like hacking stuff, and like how you think about stuff [12:02am] rodi: just wanted, I guess, to make a show of support, [12:02am] Skud: that sounds like a promising combo :) [12:03am] Skud: are you interested in hacking on GS? we can always use more contributors [12:03am] rodi: I'll take a look at it later this morning, [12:03am] rodi: see what there is to see. [12:03am] Skud: http://wiki.growstuff.org/index.php/The_Pitch is something i've been working on this evening if you're interested [12:03am] Skud: just to get a high level view of what we're building [12:04am] Skud: and then http://wiki.growstuff.org/index.php/Development_process_overview is the best place to start if you're interested in the tech/hacking side of things [12:05am] rodi: Nice, both look like great starting places... [12:05am] rodi: I like the pitch. [12:05am] Skud: i figured i might as well provide different versions for different purposes [12:05am] rodi: Wish I had it three years ago, and still need it now :) [12:05am] Skud: yeah i need it like you wouldn't believe [12:05am] Skud: we have a small garden but it's hard to keep track of. [12:06am] rodi: Nice! [12:06am] rodi: We have about 13 acres, and we're slowly turning it into a very large garden. [12:06am] Skud: *envy* [12:06am] rodi: We have chickens and bees and trees and garden veggies so far, [12:06am] Skud: that's a pretty nice climate in your area too [12:07am] rodi: It's amazing. Hard to get things *not* to grow. [12:07am] Skud: yeah [12:07am] Skud: unlike here [12:07am] rodi: Ah, shit, duty calls, I'll read the website, and maybe pop an email to the listserv, which I also joined. [12:07am] Skud: great! [12:07am] Skud: make sure you get the confirmation email [12:07am] rodi: Thanks for doing this, I think it's cool. [12:07am] Skud: gmail etc tend to spambin it [12:07am] rodi: fuckin google :-P [12:07am] Skud: i didn't see your subscription so you might have had that happen [12:07am] Skud: eh it's my fault, i need to fix our SPF records and stuff [12:07am] rodi: I bet it did. [12:08am] rodi: Awesome, I'll double check it. dbrunton@gmail.com if you're looking out for it. [12:08am] Skud: sure. i can manually subscribe you actually. [12:08am] rodi: Please do, if you don't mind [12:08am] Skud: doing it now [12:08am] rodi: Okay, more later. Thanks for doing this. [12:09am] Skud: one. [12:09am] Skud: later! [12:09am] Skud: done, even. [12:09am] rodi left the chat room. (Quit: Page closed)